Obama and the US Christians

I only briefly commented on the Obama victory in a recent post but have since then been talking with friends about it, some of whom are US citizens. The US Christians I meet certainly seem to see things differently from the British Christians I speak with. I think most of the Brit Christians I know think his victory is great and an answer to their prayers, while the US Christians are dismayed and have been praying the very opposite!

I wonder why there have been such different views between the Christians of the two nation. I know that in the US the subject of abortion has been a big thing to the believers in this election (and so it should be). But I often find this puzzling when the same constituency seems the most pro-war. When I describe myself as pro-life I mean I do not like abortion and I do not like seeing people slaughtered in war. How can it be that loathing of abortion and love of warfare appears to go hand in hand with the US Christians? I am very willing to admit thought to all my American friends, that all my information could be severely skewed by the way news is presented to us in this country.

By my measure Barak Obama is rather pro-life. However, I saw a comment recently on the blog of a US Christian leader called Dutch Sheets which I found quite shocking. It can be found by putting the title “Dutch Sheets Response to 2008 Election” in a search engine, which means you can see it quoted on various blogs with the comments people leave in response.

I know almost nothing about Dutch Sheets but it seems from his website that as a US citizen and a believer he is involved in prayer for his nation. He is dismayed at the victory of Barak Obama. He says,

Was what happened Tuesday God’s will? I am quite confident it was not. America was offered a very clear choice between moving further toward protecting the unborn or further away; between a Supreme Court that would move toward honoring God, life and morality or away from it. The stakes couldn’t have been higher nor the cost greater. As a nation we put on blinders concerning Barak Obama’s background, associations, beliefs and practices, and set these causes back years, possibly decades. And in doing so we took another step away from God and His plans for America, and another step toward judgment.

He goes on to say that judgement of God is to fall in the US as a result of this election. He says

What are some of the judgements we can expect on our nation from this election?

  • More economic woes
  • More violence in an already violent nation
  • Disease and death

He goes on to say he thinks Sarah Palin is the answer, being, “an Esther, a Deborah, with a huge mantle from God for reformation.”

I find her scary and that statement incomprehensible.

I still find it fascinating though that judgement is expected from God upon the US nation for Barak Obama’s supposed stance on abortion (I am not confident I know where he stands on that matter) but not for those things which would seem more obvious to someone outside of the US such as Bush’s illegal war and the uncounted (by policy decision) of the number of civilian deaths in Iraq, or because of government approved kidnap (“rendition”), torture, Guantanamo Bay, and I could go on. And in case anyone thinks I am being anti-US, I am ashamed that my country has colluded with much of the above.

I tease my US friends by saying that if the US president claims the role of world leader we should all have had a vote. I wonder who would have won the elections then, Gordon Brown?

5 thoughts on “Obama and the US Christians

  1. It’s official (according to Dutch Sheets):

    Anyone who voted for Obama will get a paycut, a nasty cold and blown up by terrorists and this will be sent by God.

    Obama murdered 50 million babies with his bare hands and then ate them.

    McCain didn’t get in because American christians did not reach the right level on the prayer-o-meter for God to release his blessing.

    And moose-shooting-bikini-wearing-Palin is Esther reincarnated or should I say Deborah’s legs and Esther’s upper body. The question is, if Palin is Esther, who is Xerxes?

  2. FWIW, I think you could safely substitute “British Christians” for “European Christians”.

    On the news here they showed some images from Martin Luther King’s old church, and they seemed pretty pleased, so certainly not all American Christians are upset. I actually got the impression that most Evangelicals had shifted over to the Democrat side over the past few years, but maybe I was wrong.

  3. If the whole world really did get to vote, I rather suspect we’d have witnessed Obama claiming the biggest landslide victory since Saddam Hussein was voted into power in 2002 with 11 million votes for and 0 against (actually, he might have struggled to beat Mugabe’s landslide victory too). I suspect Obama would have got in excess of 80% of the vote. If the electoral colleges were based on countries rather than US states, I suspect the only electoral college McCain would have got would be Israel. I can’t think of any other countries that would have voted for him.

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